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<matt> Matt here
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* Jos says Hello!
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<matt> 5 hours ?
<oxel> welcome to another wizmo!
<oxel> matt: bargaining?
<Laurentiu> joined the Borg collective
<matt> in that case - 2 hours
<Laurentiu> prepare to be assimilated
<Laurentiu> resistance is futile
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<titi> Borg collective?
<titi> what's that?
<titi> buzzz!!!
<Laurentiu> :):)
<oxel> Eyal: I just saw your mail on D3.1
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<Eyal> oxel: yeah, it is a bit late i guess, sorry
<oxel> it is a good idea for everyone to fix typos immediately, I think!
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<oxel> but it would be important to set editor mail notification for all deliverables...
<Eyal> yes, but this delv. is not yet in cvs, so i didn't do it yet.
<Eyal> how do you set mail notification
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<Jos> #wsmo-protocol

<oxel> ying, I got the following: 
<oxel> ying, blecker, titi,
<oxel> uwe, emilia, fionula,
<oxel> reinhold, dieter, axel,
<oxel> adrian, matt, eyal, laurent
<oxel> michal, zugmann
<oxel> hth
<Jos> I proposal to mark the following deliverables as web-standard documents, which should be provided in xhtml (the rest needs only a PDF version):

<Jos> D2

<Jos> D3.1

<Jos> D3.2

<Jos> D14

<Jos> D15

<Jos> D16.1

<Jos> D16.2

<Jos> D16.3

<Jos> D16.5

<Jos> I'm not yet sure about 16.6, 16.7, 16.8

<Jos> Any comments?

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<oxel> $ finger peterz
<oxel> Login: peterz                           Name: Peter Zugmann
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<Jos> I assume everybody agrees with my proposal?

<Jos> goalNonFunctionalProps:[Subject ->> {travel, leisure, plane}] should be:

<Jos> goalNonFunctionalProps:nonFunctionalProperties[subject ->> {travel, leisure, plane}]

<David> #wsmo-protocal
<Jos> Ying, please put in the protocol that the fix for the example at the end of section 4.3.3 in D10 can be found in the chat log

<David> #wsmo-protocol
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<Jos> Ying, please put my proposal in the protocol as is

<Laurentiu> axel, I just sent to you drawing as starting point for our later discussion
<Jos> Dieter, what is the deadline for D18: Language API?

<Jos> Axel, Titi, are you authors of D18?

<oxel> not that I know of
<oxel> I still didn'T get the general idea what we want to achieve there
<michal> ying please include me in 13.0 as well
<Eyal> what is d18?
<Jos> Ontology Language API, part of WSML

<Eyal> do we get notes from the first wsml meeting?
<Jos> will be sent around by Uwe

<Eyal> okiedokie
<oxel> jos: since you seem to have an idea of what D18 is about, but the others did not really, could you send a paragraph around on that?
<Jos> Dieter is the editor

<oxel> jos: the "use case" could be a restricted ontology... some kind of mapping refinement we were talking about?
<Jos> not at all

<oxel> well, I think yes
<Jos> nothing is refined

<oxel> because you only need a subset of the mediation
<Jos> that is not a refinement but a subset

<oxel> which can also be seen as kind of refinement, but a very simple one, or no?
<oxel> (trying t ounderstand things better)
<Jos> If you don't refine anything, you have an empty refiner, but still a refinement

<oxel> well the mediator from O1 to O2 can be refined to one from O1s to O2s?
<Jos> You use *exactly* the same mediator or you use a proper subset 

<oxel> hmmm, but you do not need the full mediator, or the mediator might be complete for the sub-ontology, where it is not for the whole ontology!
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<oxel> hmmm, but you do not need the full mediator, or the mediator might be complete for the sub-ontology, where it is not for the whole ontology!
<oxel> ooops sorry, didn't want to repeat myself
<oxel> can anybody give me a brief summary, what cookies can do and what they can't in this context?
<oxel> ok, just discussed
<Jos> yes, the mediator might be complete for the sub-ontology, where it is not for the whole ontology!

<Jos> sorry

<Jos> the mediator for the full ontologies is also complete for the sub-ontology

<Jos> and the mapping between the sub-ontologies is a proper subset of the full mapping

<Jos> links concerning WS-CTX:

<Jos> WS-CAF: http://www.iona.com/devcenter/standards/WS-CAF/

<Jos> WS-Context: http://www.iona.com/devcenter/standards/WS-CAF/WSCTX.pdf

<Jos> also WS-CF: http://www.iona.com/devcenter/standards/WS-CAF/WSCF.pdf

<Jos> AFAIK, WS-CAF is not being standardized through any standardization body

<Laurentiu> axel talk to you in 30 min
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<Eyal> about ws-caf: i read in the faq they are going to submit it to stand.body, but not done yet...
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<Jos> what standard body?

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