WSMO Phone Conference dated 13-09-2006
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Attendees:
 Dieter Fensel 
 John Domingue
 Holger Lausen
 Mick Kerrigan
 Jacek Kopecky
 James Scicluna
 Ioan Toma
 Michael Kifer
 Axel Polleres

Administrative
- SAWSDL Presentation to be done during the WSMO one

WS-Policy Specification & Working Group
 - Jacek to prepare presentation for the next phone conference.

Activity Sheet
 - D15.1 is not marked red. Titi to fix the activity sheet.

Website
 - Axel: Annoying Popup
 - Holger: Statistics cannot be kept with the current provider.
 - Dieter: Holger to delegate the problem to a student.


Deliverables
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D2 - Web Service Modeling Ontology
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Holger: 
 - Titi (editor) not present
Dieter:
 - serviceNonFunctionalProperties needs to have a separate subsection
 - did we agree to call them non-functional Properties?
Axel
 - call them "annotations"
Dieter:
 - Heading of Section 4.1 should talk about annotations
 - Same as for the other elements (concept, attribute, instance etc...)
Axel:
 - we need a superclass "annotation" and sub-class of it
Holger:
 - we don't need this
Dieter:
 - it's a language issue
 - serviceNPFs and capabilityNFPs should have separate sections
 - chapter 5.1 should talk about NFPs and have a list.
Axel:
 - what are conditions of nfps?
Ioan:
 - it's just a formula
Holger:
 - have nfps in interfaces and not only annotations
 - to finish updates in 3.5 weeks


D28.4
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Ioan:
 - modified post & pre condition sections

Dieter:
 - delete open issues section
 - in section 3 explain how both nfp types are included in wsml
 - 1st paragraph of section 4 has to explain its structure

Ioan:
 - listing 4.1 shows the distinction between documentation nfps and service nfps

Dieter
 - listing 4.1: not sub-classes: they're different
 - listing 4.3: nfps are at the same level of capability and interface

Holger: Presentation of SAWSDL


WSML Phone Conference dated 13-09-2006
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Activity Sheet
 - D28.1 late (next deadline Friday 6th October)
 - D28.2 won't be discussed since it was late


D33
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Dieter:
 - no comments

Holger:
 - no reference to the deserialization of URIs

Dieter:
 - next version next week friday.


Discussion on the annotations on wsml elements
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Axel:
 - Two main issues:
   1. Translation of annotations to WSML (whether using a function symbol or anonymous IDs)
   2. nesting of molecules within NFPs
 - Possible Solutions for issue 1:
   - Advantage for using a function symbol: easier to read
   - Advantage for using an anonymous ID: they're long been in WSML


Michael:
 - complicated with anonymous IDs
 - we could allow function symbols (however they should not be nested in WSML-Core)

Axel:
 - we should call it _annotation
 - 2nd issue: complex object meta attributes.

Michael:
 - why not allowing nesting of molecules?

jacek:
 - don't like complex descriptions because we only talk about annotations

Axel:
 - Agreed on nesting molecules
 - The usage and whether path expressions should be used are still open issues
 - will update the WSML issues list


Short Discussion on the Issues List
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Jacek:
 - Whny not discuss it on the WSML Phone Conf?

Holger:
 - Jos wants to have a clear idea about the layering issues first

Jacek:
 - Proposal to have the Issues list on the list of deliverables page

James:
 - it is accessible from D16.1 (link in Appendix F)


Next Phone Conference: Wednesday 27th September